Sunday, December 27, 2009



The rain over the last few days has given all the river and creeks a good boost of water. For now the water flow in all the smaller creeks are high and muddy, for now. As for the ices, that has cleared out temporarily. The water temperature in these creek, is that of sown run off, about 32 degrees. Ones the water flow starts to come down the creeks will quickly freeze back up. So it goes with these smaller creeks this time of the year.
True to form the Oak Orchard River continues to fish. The water flows have dropped over the past week. But if you worked the pools over, you can come up with a few fish. I am not sure if we had enough rain to increase the water flow on the Oak. But an increase in water flow would be good for the fishing. The fish could use a little freshening up. Four flies the same stuff is still working. Egg flies in your favorite colors size 12 to 8, bunny flies size 4 and 6 in colors of white and olive, stone fly nymphs in size 12 to 6.
The Salmon River: the biggest change is the water flow. To my surprise the water flow was cut back the 335 CFS. I do not know how long the water level will remain at this level. It will be wise to check with water line before fishing the Salmon River. The fishing has continued to hold up despite the drop in water flow. Remember we are fishing in winter conditions. Concentrate your efforts from mid morning to mid afternoon. Also keep your egg flies and nymphs on the river bottom. Swing your flies as slowly as you can and as close to the bottom as you can. Steelheads that are sitting in ice cloud water do not like to move to far for a fly.

WINTER FISHING SPECIAL

Daring the winter months the productive fishing time daring the course of the day is much shorter. Typically during the winter most days there will be approximately 6 hours productive fishing, before light conditions and cold temperatures shot the fishing down.
We are offering a winter fishing special for guide trips. One person will be $200 and two persons will be $300, this is a saving of a $100. This is for the home streams only. Oak Orchard, Sandy Creek, Genesee River and multiple days, for the Salmon River. This special also includes local trout streams Oatka and Spring Creek. We meet at 8 to 8:30 a.m. and on the water by 9 a.m. and fish straight through to 3 p.m. take advantage of the best part of the day. We will be running the special until March 15 2010. Give us a call and fend off cabin fever.
For available days feel free to give me a call at 585-352-0439 or the fly shop at 585- 352-4775.

Sunday, December 20, 2009



Winter has a solid hold on all of the river and creeks, on the Western end of Lake Ontario. For now the smaller creeks are frozen over. The only river that is fishing is the Oak Orchard river, the Genesee River is high but coming down. I would give the Genesee about a week and then checking on the river. The Oak Orchard river water flow is ideal for fishing and the water color has improved over the past week. The water temperature is at 33 degrees. This means that the fish bit will be slower then what we see in the fall. Some days we will fish threw the pool twist. That is make one run threw all the pools and fish to the fish that are presently on the bite. Ones we go threw the all pools, we will walk back up river and run the pools agene. Fish will sit in the pools and go on and off the bit all day. We are now obviously fishing out of our winter fly boxes. Productive flies are; egg flies in size 12 to 8 bunny flies size 4 and 6 in colors of white and olive, stone fly nymphs in size 12 to 6.
The water flow remains a 750 CFS, judging by the pineville water flow gauge. I suspect we will have this water flow for some time. The Salmon River is no different then the rivers in the Western end of the Lake when it comes to being locked in to winter fishing conditions. Daring cold morning's the lower river is expressing slushy conditions, this usually clears up by mid morning. On cold days the slush ice can persist throughout the day. Despite the icy conditions, steelheads continue to trickle in, this main there is fresh steelhead spread out through the lower river. The upper river continues to remain ice free, this is also are the majority of steelhead are concentrating. Fishing pressure in this part of the river has dropped off considerably do to the cold water. However the fish are there in the fishing remains good. For flies, we are using the same stuff that we do for the Oak Orchard River.

WINTER FISHING SPECIAL

Daring the winter months the productive fishing time daring the course of the day is much shorter. Typically during the winter most days there will be approximately 6 hours productive fishing, before light conditions and cold temperatures shot the fishing down.
We are offering a winter fishing special for guide trips. One person will be $200 and two persons will be $300, this is a saving of a $100. This is for the home streams only. Oak Orchard, Sandy Creek, Genesee River and multiple days, for the Salmon River. This special also includes local trout streams Oatka and Spring Creek. We meet at 8 to 8:30 a.m. and on the water by 9 a.m. and fish straight through to 3 p.m. take advantage of the best part of the day. We will be running the special until March 15 2010. Give us a call and fend off cabin fever.
For available days feel free to give me a call at 585-352-0439 or the fly shop at 585- 352-4775.

Sunday, December 13, 2009




Old man winter has finally arrived. This cooled snap will put the fishing in to a winter fishing pattern. The water temperatures will need a few days to stabilize fist. After that, it will be a mid morning to mid afternoon fishing day. I like to call it fishing the bankers hours. For the fishing conditions right now, all of the smaller streams and creeks are back up and muddy from the rain and wet snow the other day. The cool weather will help push the water levels down faster. For now freezing up does not look like it will be a problem for these smaller streams and creeks.
The Oak Orchard River has held up well over the last week of rain and wet snow. The water flow is on the high side, the clarity is a heavy staying, but still good for fishing. The higher water flow should be drawing in new fish every day. Add the clod whether which always causes the fishing pressure to drop. The oak will be providing some good fishing ones the cold weather pushes throw. For flies; stay with egg patterns in size 8 and 10 in your favor colors. Small wet flies in size 8 to 4, and white streamers Swing these flies as slowly alone the bottom as you can.
The Salmon River - The despite what you may think, so far the salmon has not received too much snowfall. The reports that I'm getting is saying that there's anywhere from 4 inches to a foot of snow along the river. The biggest change for the Salmon River, is the water flow. After over a month of water flows at 335 CFS, the water has finally been increased to 750 CFS. Even though we've had some cold winter weather, this increase in water flow should draw in new fish.

Saturday, December 5, 2009






We have had some rain this week. Finally enough to bring the water flows up on all of our rivers and creeks. The water flows in all of the smaller creeks are presently flowing high and muddy. I suspect water flows in these creeks will moderate within a few days. For now the Oak Orchard River has continues to fish despite the recent increase in water flow. Both water level and water clarity has held up over the last few days on the Oak. I suspect that the clarity will decrease slightly over the next few days. However I do not foresee the Oak becoming too dirty to fish. As for what is going on with the fishing on the Oak. There is a fairly decent amount of steelhead spread out through all the pools from the dam on down river. I have not seen many Brown trout over last few days. However this is not unusual for this time of the year. Often the Brown trout fishing will go throw a slow down in early December. Any day these spawn a Browns will go on the feed, and then the Brown trout fishing and get back on pace.
The Salmon Rive, this has been where I have had my best Brown trout fishing of the entire fall. The upper fly fishing zone has been loaded with Brown trout. Normally Western New York is the place to catch monster Brown trout however this fall it has been the Salmon River. I have never seen so many Brown trout in the upper fly fishing zone as I have this fall. As of 12/1/09 the upper fly fishing zone is close until this spring on the 4/1/10 the upper fly fishing zone will open back up.
The lower fly fishing zone is fishing good for steelhead and we are also getting a few brown trout. The Salmon River is settling into a typical December fishing pattern. The lower river is seeing a consistent flow of new fish entering the river and working their way up. The lower river may not have the numbers of fish as the upper river does. However these fish have not experienced much fishing pressure yet, and are more readily to take a fly.
The upper river, there is large numbers of fish. However this is where the majority of the fishing pressure is located. You need to take the fishing pressure into consideration with your fishing. Despite the fishing pressure, the section of river can produce a great day of fishing.